(1Peter 3:19) 
Christ "went and preached to the spirits in prison"

1 Pet 4:1-6
For this reason the gospel was preached also to those who are dead,  
that they might be judged according to men in the flesh,
but live according to God in the spirit.”

So the consequences of the death of Jesus on the cross had cosmic consequences.

Col (1:15-20)
Christ has reconciled to himself all things,
whether on
earth or in heaven,
making peace by the blood of the cross





Ephesians 4: 7-10  “7 But each one of us was given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. 8Therefore God says, ‘When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men.’ 9But this, ‘He ascended’ —didn't he also first descend into the lower parts of the earth? 10He who descended is the one who also ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things” (Ephesians 4:7-10 quoting Psalm 68:18).


When Christ died, was buried, arose from the dead, and ascended to the right hand of God, he set a host of captives free from sin and took them captive to himself. He continues to do so even today and will continue until he comes again, "that he might fill all things" (Ephesians 4:10).


So Christ  went to Hades  and "led captivity captive" (Ephesians 4:8)

In that God "rescued those who were under the domain of darkness, and transferred them to the kingdom"  Jesus snatched spiritual captives from Satan (cf. Matthew 27:52-53)

and conquered Death and Hell (1 Corinthians 15:55)

and empowered His Church to eternal victory.
"And the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" (Matthew 16:18).


The reconciliation and renewing and making things new covers all things in the cosmos in the theology of Paul and Revelation of Jesus by John.  It is everywhere emphasizing that the effect of the Cross in not only for the living, but also for those died and those in the future where ever they are:


Isaiah 43:18 “Remember not the former things, nor consider the things of old. 19 Behold, I am doing a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it? I will make a way in the wilderness and rivers in the desert.


Revelation 21:5 And he who was seated on the throne said,
“Behold, I am making all things new.”
Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”


Isaiah 65:17 “For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth,
and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind."

It is as though it had never happened.


Ephesians 2:15  by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances,
 that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,


Revelation 21:1–8 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband; and I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Behold, the dwelling of God is with men. He will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself will be with them; he will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning nor crying nor pain any more, for the former things have passed away."


And he who sat upon the throne said, "Behold I make all things new." Also he said, "Write this, for these words are trustworthy and true." And he said to me, "It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the fountain of the water of life without payment. He who conquers shall have this heritage, and I will be his God and he shall be my son.

But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and sulphur,
which is the second death."  So this one death is not the end.  There is also a second life in a second age and that can also end up in a second death.


By the second resurrection the second set of people – the righteous ones – will join the resurrected eternal life. Now the question is what waits to those who are considered not worthy to attain to that age? It is described as, Second death, or Separation.


Does this end the life of those unrighteous in annihilation?


Some proposes that the wicked will be annihilated.


If they go into annihilation cease to exist and cease to suffer and there is no punishment here. If they continue to exist in jail there is also a chance of redemption.

Psalm 88:10,11 “Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? Shall the dead arise and praise thee? Shall thy lovingkindness be declared in the grave? Or thy faithfulness in destruction?”

Thus the two age model is too simplistic, it is a.zero approximation. All these suggests that the simple two age model is a simplistic model which needs further elaboration. However the revealed word gives us very little description of any age beyond the ages which is present and the next one. However we are given enough indications based on the nature and character of God and his promises to see the plan of universal salvation. However it is accomplished not in this age, but through many ages to come when God will redeem all mankind unto himself when all creation will be released from its bondage of death

1Co 2:6 -7 Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glorification.

(Pro 25:2-3) It is the glory of God to conceal things, but the glory of kings is to search things out. As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the mind of kings is unsearchable. but the glory of kings is to se things out. As the heavens for height, and the ear
th for depth, so the mind of kings is unsearchable.
Deu 29:29 "The secret things belong to the LORD our God; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.


The direct statement which defines the character of God in the Old Testament is found in the Mosaic revelation when God declares:
Exo 34:6 -7 and Jehovah passeth over before his face, and calleth: `Jehovah, Jehovah God,
merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abundant in kindness and truth,
keeping kindness for thousands, taking away iniquity, and transgression, and sin,
and not entirely acquitting, charging iniquity of fathers on children, and on children's children, on a third generation , and on a fourth.' (YLT)

The Old Testment is period of the Law.

The whole history as presented in the Bible is a series of events where God loves and gives punishment, seemingly severe. God cannot entirely acquit sin. He punishes it. Hence Paul tells us that under the Law Every transgression and disobedience received a just recompense of reward. Heb. 2: 2.
But behind it all is the love, mercy and kindness typical of a Father.

The fullness of revelation came through Jesus in the New Testament where God is presented as Love and as a Father in its fullness.
“While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us (Rom. 5:8).

Jn 4:7 -13 Beloved, may we love one another, because the love is of God, and everyone who is loving, of God he hath been begotten, and doth know God; he who is not loving did not know God, because God is love. In this was manifested the love of God in us, because His Son--the only begotten--hath God sent to the world, that we may live through him; in this is the love, not that we loved God, but that He did love us, and did send His Son a propitiation for our sins. Beloved, if thus did God love us, we also ought one another to love; God no one hath ever seen; if we may love one another, God in us doth remain, and His love is having been perfected in us; in this we know that in Him we do remain, and He in us, because of His Spirit He hath given us. 




Christ conquered death

The function of Jesus was to defeat death and to redeem the whole creation. Every statement of redemption is referring to all.

"The gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does" (1 Peter 4:6).

 I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to me" John 12:32

Jesus...."is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world"1 John 2:2





"The Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world"1 John 4:14

"...who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time" 1 Tim.2:6


"We trust in the livin

g God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially those that believe"
1 Tim.4:10

"The lord is long-suffering toward us, not willing that any should perish"2 Pet.3:9

"And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL things unto himself..." Col. 1:20


"The grace of God has appeared bringing salvation to all men" (Titus 2:11)






Hence the Salvation and Redemption through the sacrifice of Jesus Our Lord on the cross is for the whole mankind, nay much more, it is for the whole creation – the whole cosmos.   

Free willed Sons of God.

This salvation is offered to the whole mankind by Jesus. However there is another factor that comes into play – the free will of the Children of God.

Every man is tempted when he is drawn away of his own lust and enticed. From whence come wars and fighting amongst you? Do they not come even of the lusts that war in your members? James 1: 14; 4: 1.

“Christ by his Resurrection conquered death and extended his liberating power to the kingdom of the dead.

Redemption nevertheless remains an offer of salvation which it is up to people to accept freely. This is why they will all be judged "by what they [have done]" (Rv 20:13). By using images, the New Testament presents the place destined for evildoers as a fiery furnace, where people will "weep and gnash their teeth" (Mt 13:42; cf. 25:30, 41), or like Gehenna with its "unquenchable fire" (Mk 9:43). All this is narrated in the parable of the rich man, which explains that hell is a place of eternal suffering, with no possibility of return, nor of the alleviation of pain (cf. Lk. 16:19-3 1).

The Book of Revelation also figuratively portrays in a "pool of fire" those who exclude themselves from the book of life, thus meeting with a "second death" (Rv. 20:13f.). Whoever continues to be closed to the Gospel is therefore preparing for 'eternal destruction and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might" (2 Thes 1:9).” (HEAVEN, HELL AND PURGATORY: Pope John Paul II)

Universal Salvation

Universal reconciliation, universal salvation or sometimes simply universalism, is the doctrine or belief that all will receive salvation, regardless of their current state because of the love and mercy of God. But it is not forced on to individuals because of the freedom God has given to his sons. Every act will receive a just reward. As a result those who reject the offer of salvation will have to go through the experience of hell here and now as well as in the ages to come until he returns to the father.

There are some who believe it to be a heresy because they feel it will reduce the impact of the immediacy of the gospel message.
 This is the day of salvation and this is the day of grace. If you miss this you are going to suffer through hell. That is the gospel in truth.

Various early fathers definitely expressed this concept. These include:
• Clement of Alexandria, in the 3rd century
• Origen in the 3rd century,

• St. Gregory of Nyssa in the 4th century, who was declared "the father of fathers" by the seventh ecumenical council

• and St. Isaac the Syrian in the 7th century,

Four of the six theological schools of thought in ancient Christendom supported universalism and only one supported eternal damnation. Additionally, theological thought appears more varied before the strong influence of Augustine, who forcefully denied universal salvation

What we are told is that Jesus will redeem ALL THINGS and will make all things new. We have no definite revelation regarding these intermediary states. Theologians through the ages have suggested various methods.

Simple Two age model LEADS TO ETERNAL HELL
jesus could not make his promise


This is the simple western evangelistic model. They refuse to accept any further age. Thus those who are in Christ (Christians) will live eternally in Heaven and those who are not in Christ (Non Christians) will live eternally in hell in eternal suffering.  This of course makes the resurrection and judgement an unnecessary event if you accept that Jesus will come again and take his believers dead and alive with him and he will unite with the church (the event of the marriage of the lamb)  If the believers are already with him as his wife where is the judgement.  "There is therefore no condemnation for those who are in Jesus"  They only receive their crowns. The unbelievers are already in hell.

Again, this of course violates the character of God as Father and a host of scriptural verses.  
How can there be joy in heaven when relations of those in heaven still burn in hell?
God will have to bring in a memory wipe out for them.
Of course all creation is not made new here.
Unless burning is making new.

Some group devised another solution where the Non Christians are totally annihilated. They cease to exist. So they don’t suffer any more.

Now that all non-christians are gone from cosmos, what remains as the believers who can all be made new and all that remains of the creation can be made new.



What Paul and the New Testament assert is:
There is a separation of men into two groups from one age to the other. One enters into Heaven and the other to Hell. The presence of God continues even in the Hell because there is nothing outside of God.


Where do you go after the second death? What happens after death? A new hell or a new heaven and a repetition of the process? The scripture leave that to be explained.  
But this much we know that in the end he will make all things new.


How can God do this without violating the freewill of the sentient beings in all cosmos.  The only way this can be done is by an on going separation of the righteous and those who believe in Jesus for the redemption of sin.

This has to be an ongoing process until he can make all things new.  The ages after the ages will be the process of making everything new.

Jesus said:
"Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.".
Nicodemus saith unto him,
"How can a man be born when he is old? . Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?"  
Jesus answered. .
".Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit"
(John 3:3-6)

Psa 139:7 -8 Whither shall I go from thy Spirit? Or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend to heaven, thou art there! If I make my bed in Sheol, thou art there!

Ultimately All creation will be reconciled and redeemed.

Thus in the love of God as a Father the patience of God continues through the Ages until by their own choice every Son will all return to the Father. This is illustrated by the parable of the Prodigal Son.

This mystery however is not fully exposed in the Bible for the simple reason, that the gospel is for now. Today is the day of salvation. Sadhu Sunder Singh presents it as follows:   


  in Christ shall ALL be made alive   


“I was also told that the love of God operates even in Hell. Those in Hell will ultimately be brought to Heaven, like the prodigal son, but with regard to the ultimate fate of certain in number you must not ask.  There is a kind of heavenly joke – no, joke is not a good word for it. Very few will be lost but many will be saved. It is so but don’t tell,’ they said, as it were in jest, ‘because it will make men careless, and we want them to enjoy the First Heaven - that is, the Heaven on earth - as well.’
Sadhu Sunder Singh

Though we have no definite revelation on how this process takes place. Paul gives the following necessary events before this is achieved.

1Co 15:22-28
• For as in Adam ALL die, so also in Christ shall ALL be made alive.
• But each in his own order:

What is this order?

o Christ the first fruit;

o then they that are Christ's, at his coming.

o Then we have the white throne judgment when the righteous non-believer are given the earth. Mat 25:46

“And these shall go away into age to age punishment: but the righteous into age to age life. “

These are sure events, since we have details about these events in the Bible.

Then what?

l  Somethings happen so that it leads to a state -

l  when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.

l For he must reign,  till he hath put all his enemies under his feet. (These are the evil forces of the whole cosmos)

l  For, He put all things in subjection under his feet.

l The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.

l And when all things have been subjected unto him

l then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him,

l Then cometh the end, when he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; But when he saith, All things are put in subjection, it is evident that he is excepted who did subject all things unto him

'  The whole creation will be redeemed- we are only the first fruits


(1Co 15:26) The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

Romans 8:20-24  For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope that
the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay
 and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.  
We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.  Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.  For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have?


Rom 8:19-21 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God; for the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.


Rom 8:23-24 and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved.

l that God may be all in all.

These are very cryptic statements. Evidently the struggle with the powers of darkness continues beyond the White Throne judgment until Christ reigns. Then the Son himself will merge with the Father so that God fill the whole cosmos.


Eph 1:9-10 For he has made known to us in all wisdom and insight the mystery of his will, according to his purpose which he set forth in Christ as
 a plan for the fullness of time,
to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.





Rev 21:5 And he who sat upon the throne said,
"Behold, I make all things new."


(1Co 15:28) When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things under him, that God may be everything to everyone.

The cycle of Fall and Total Redemptions through a number of ages, brings back the cosmos to its original consonance in God.

Here is the plan of salvation that is suggested in these verses which satisfies all the sequence of events.

You were created once and your body may die, but you will live. Probably in another dimension where the love of God will still reach out. You are a Son and until you are mature, the father will discipline you.  Then your yetser ha Ra will balance your yetser ha Tov.  Adam and Eve enters back the Garden of Eden. And The Garden of Eden will be the whole creation in all dimensions.  Just as in the first death, the physical body is lost and another type of body is given and the soul lives in Hades, in the second death a dimensional change might be occuring.  Just as the soul continues to live in Hades, it will continue to live in other dimensions after subsequent death.  This is in a way re-incarnation, but not back into physical realm.

One thing is certain in the ultimate end God will redeem all of his children in every realm of existence and everything will be made whole and new.


Scriptural Evidence of Universalism


God is the Father of all men.

 "Have we not ALL one Father? Hath not one God created us?" (Mal. 2:10)

A kind Father will not punish his children but for their good. God is evidently called the Father of all men in the Scriptures, and this is not an unmeaning name. He has the disposition and principles of a Father. He loves with a Father's love. He watches with a Father's care. He reproves with a Father's tenderness. He punishes with a Father's design. God is the Father of all men and, therefore, he cannot make mankind endlessly miserable.

The Will of God

It is the will of God that all men shall be saved.
"Who will have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth." (1 Tim. 2:4)

By "all men", in this passage, is undoubtedly to be understood all the human race. Salvation comes through the belief of the truth. God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth, and be saved thereby.

The Rod of Men
2 Samuel 7:14 I will be a father to him and he will be a son to Me; when he commits iniquity, I will correct him with the rod of men and the strokes of the sons of men,

The Nature of God
God is love, and love worketh no ill.
 "God is love". (1 John 4:8)
 "Love Worketh no ill". (Rom. 13:10)

This is a very forcible argument. God's nature is the very essence of benevolence, and benevolence cannot be the origin of endless evil. If love worketh no ill, God can work no ill, and, therefore, God cannot be the author of endless evil.

God loves all mankind.
 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son" (John 3:16), and, as Jesus died for all men, so God loves all men. This argument adds great force to the last.

God loves even his enemies. For he requires men to love their enemies, which he could not do if he hated his. (Matt. 4:44) And Jesus declared, "for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." (Luke 6:35) This is but an amplification of the preceding argument. If God loves his enemies, he certainly loves all men, for no one doubts that he loves his friends. And can God cause those to be endlessly miserable whom he loves?

The PLEASURE of God  .

"As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked". (Ezek. 33:11)  

The Mystery of His will:  

"Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, WHICH HE HATH PURPOSED IN HIMSELF, that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even in him". (Eph. 1:9-10)

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me". (John 12:32)

God promised to Abraham, his servant, that he would bless all mankind, in his seed.
"In thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed". (Gen. 12:3)
"In thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed". (Gen. 22:18)

God made the same promise to Isaac.
"I will perform the oath which I scare unto Abraham thy father, and I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed." (Gen. 24:3-4)

The same promise was repeated to Jacob, the grandson of Abraham.
"And in thee, and in thy seed, shall all the families of the earth be blessed." (Gen. 28:14)

The apostle Paul (and higher authority we do not wish) fully settles the question in regard to who is meant by the "seed of Abraham." He says,
"Now to Abraham and his seed, were the promises made. He saith not, and to seeds, as of many; but as of one, and to thy seed, WHICH IS CHRIST." (Gal. 3:16)

Christ, then, is the seed of Abraham; and in him ALL the NATIONS and FAMILIES of the earth shall be blessed.

The apostle Paul repeats this promise, and calls it THE GOSPEL. "And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, IN THE SHALL ALL NATIONS BE BLESSED." (Gal 3:8)


Jesus died FOR ALL.
"He gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time." (1 Tim. 2:6)

"But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels, for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he, by the grace of God, SHOULD TASTE DEATH FOR EVERY MAN." (Heb. 2:9)

"And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD." (1 John 2:2)

So John says, "If ANY MAN sin, we have and Advocate with the Father." (1 John 2:1)  
"and I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." (John 12:32)

When Jesus was born, the angel said to the fearful shepherds,
"Behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which SHALL BE TO ALL PEOPLE." (Luke 2:10)  

The people who heard Jesus preach, said, "we have heard him ourselves, and we know that this is indeed the Christ, THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD." (John 4:42)

John, the beloved disciple of Christ, said,

"We have seen, and do testify, that the Father sent the Son TO BE THE SAVIOR OF THE WORLD." (1 John 4:14)  

The Testimony of the Prophets

 . "And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you, whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets, since the world began." (Acts 3:20-21)

Isaiah said, "the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and ALL FLESH shall see it together." (Isaiah 40:5) This is the declaration of Jehovah, for the prophet adds, "the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it." If the Lord hath declared, that all flesh shall see his glory together, surely it must be done.

.Jehovah saith, by Jeremiah, concerning the covenant he made with the house of Israel,

"I will put my law in their inward parts, and writhe it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, know the Lord; for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more." (Jer. 31:33-34)

"THE LORD WILL NOT CAST OFF FOREVER. But, though he cause grief, yet will he have compassion according to the multitude of his mercies, for he doth not afflict willingly, nor grieve the children of men." (Lamen. 3:31-33)

Daniel said, of the reign of Christ, "there was given him dominion, and glory and a kingdom that all people, nations and languages, should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed." (Dan. 7:14)

Hosea said, "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death. O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave (or Hell, Sheol), I will be thy destruction." (Hosea 8:14)

Let the light of inspiration guide us. St. Paul applies these words to the resurrection of the dead, at the last day, (see 1 Cor. 15:54-55). At the resurrection of the dead, the, God will destroy SHEOL, HELL. He does not raise his creatures from the dead in order to punish them forever in SHEOL, for SHEOL shall then be destroyed.

.Micah said, of Jehovah, "He retaineth not his anger forever, because he delighteth in mercy." (Micah 7:18)  

Paul saith, "As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive". (1 Cor. 15:22)

 "If any man be in Christ Jesus, he is a new creature". (2 Cor. 5:17)

Hence, if ALL shall be made alive IN CHRIST, they shall ALL be new creatures in the resurrection of the dead.

Death, the last enemy, shall be destroyed. (1 Cor 15:26) If death be the last enemy, and if that shall be destroyed, there will no enemies to the happiness of man remain after the resurrection.

Paul saith, "that God was in Christ, reconciling THE WORLD unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them". (2 Cor. 5:19)  

God is called "the Savior of all men". (1 Tim 4:10)  

"The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from ALL sin". (1 John 1:7)  


"By your command death became the power,
But by your resurrection, you have removed this"   

So says the liturgy of the Eastern Churches.  The law which bound everything in the material world to go from order to disorder came to an end when Jesus rose from the dead on the third day.  The Second Law of Thermodynamics has been reversed in that grave when Jesus defeated death.  This resurrection power is available to all who accept Him.

 God also tells us in the Bible that we are going to get these earthly bodies back not the decaying body, not the three dimensional body; but a glorified body which will go from glory unto glory which is sometimes called spiritual body to indicates that even the material will include other higher dimensions.  What we have is not just matter but the essence that is the substance of the body of God Himself whose form is found in Christ.   The redeemed will exist in all the realms of cosmos, material, soul , spirit and into the divine.

 In Corinthians 15:42-44, he speaks not only about these earthly bodies but also about our spiritual bodies.

So also is the resurrection of the dead.

The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption.

It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory.

It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power.

It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

And all this is going to happen in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye.

2 Corinthians 3:17-18

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.




 "There shall be no more curse" (Revelation 22:3).

"Because the [creation] itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God" (Romans 8:21).


"The old law of entropy, along with "the law of sin and death" (Romans 8:2) which accompanied it, will be gone once and for all—all because Christ lives!"







Hell is real, whether it is a state or a place; whether you make it yourself or the cosmic law builds it for you.  It is an on going torture. It can be ages after ages of pain and suffering.  But you don’t have to go through hell. Jesus offers it to you here, now and in this life.  This is the good news of Salvation through Jesus Christ.

You have the freedom to choose.  God will never force it on you this way or that. Now or any time in your life, inside the Hell or even inside Heaven.  It is your choice.

If the life of the saved in the heaven is eternal it would necessarily mean he is eternally in consonance with God and he never goes against the spirit and will of God.

Doesn't that imply he looses his freedom of will.
It is one thing to assume that the begotten Son goes along with the Father and Mother of his own will. Father, Son and HS are one in essence and thus form one God - they have no freedom of will outside of the family. This is why many theologians had problem with the concept Trinity. Thus the Eastern Churhes distinguish between the Trinity family as one is essence and hence One God.  Not so with the Sons of God and all creation which are not one in essence with God, but emanations from the One Triune God.  Adam and Eve had total freewill and can go against the will of God while being children of God.. The eternal heaven implies no free will and it reduces either Adamic family as the slaves of God as assumed by Islam and early Jews or they are simply machines.
Is that the heaven we are talking about.?
Unless we assume that in the process of theosis we transform in the likeness of the son and become merged with the Son as his body and as his wife,  The marriage is consumated and we form part of the God Family.

If there is freewill in heaven what will God do when someone decides against God's will? If he exercise yetser ha Ra, (self assertion and egoism and demands seperation from God)  what happens to the heavenly society and its oneness?

What I am trying to establish is the concept that even in heaven, Human freewill exists and hence anyone can disturb the unity of heaven and demand a new election to a new King or new President.

Is there any reason to think that “ending” or “non-ending” is part of the meaning of the word? I think not. In Christ’s parable, the goats go into age-to-age punishment, and the sheep into age-to-age life. That which goes from age to age, may come to an end or it may not. There is nothing inherent in the meaning of the word “aiōnios” that indicates which it is. That is exactly why that word was used in the scripture.  

 That was the case with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden

As long as the inhabitant went along with the Kingdom Principles and rules, you are in.  If they then assert their own "I am" Ra concept outside of God, the whole Kingdom will again fall out.  God will be forced to start all over again. Will the cycle of creation and redemption repeat as a cycle?  It may not be in a long long time to come.  But sonship implies freedom and freedom would mean that fall out is a possibility.

2 Corinthians 3:17 -18 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirt.

This is probably where the concept of the marriage of lamb comes to play.  


The marriage is the joining of the creation as the body of Christ which gives the creation a greater stability with each organ as free part of the body. That makes the age of the new family long unless the marriage fall apart or the heart of the body malfunction.


There are, however, some striking statements on the universal scope and efficacy of the atonement in the New Testament.
Christ took away the sins of the world (John 1:29);
drew all men to Himself (12:32);
propitiated the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2 ASV);
In Christ shall all be made alive (1 Cor 15:22 RSV);
In Christ the world is reconciled to God (2 Cor 5:19).

John 1:29  The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
= Behold the lamb of God which will take away the sins of some of the people

John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
= If I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw some of you to me

1 John 2:2   And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

= He is the propitiation for some of our sins, not for ours only, but also for the sins of some of  those not with us also

1 Corinthians 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

= Even though in Adam all die, not so in Christ, in Christ some shall be made alive

2 Corinthians 5:19  To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

=  God was in Christ, reconciling some people of this world unto himself…..and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation for them.

John 3:16   For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Romans 8:19-23: The sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that will be revealed in us. The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed. For the creation was subjected to frustration [curse]... in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God....We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

(How can the creation - the whole creation be liberated when some are in the hell?)

Gen 12:3, “In thee shall all families of the earth be blessed” )

Isaiah 43:18-23  Remember not the former things, nor consider the things of old. Behold, I am doing a new thing; now it springs forth, do you not perceive it? I will make a way in the wilderness  and rivers in the desert.

Revelation 21:5  And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

Isaiah 65:17   For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth, and the former things shall not be remembered or come into mind.

 Ephesians 2:15 by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace,

 Hebrews 8:13  In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

1 Timothy 4:10    For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.

2 Peter 3:9   The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 

1 Timothy 2:4  Who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Isaiah 55:8-11   For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. “For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven and do not return there but water the earth, making it bring forth and sprout, giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it.

Romans 5:18  Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men.

John 12:32  And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.”

Titus 2:11  For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,

Romans 11:32   For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.

Philippians 2:10  So that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

1 Corinthians 15:22  For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.

Romans 14:11   For it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”

Luke 3:6  And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.’”

 John 1:29  The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 

John 3:16-17  “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

John 12:47  If anyone hears my words and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.

1 Peter 3:19  In which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison,

1 Peter 4:6  For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.

Ephesians 1:10  As a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.

Philippians 2:9-11  Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Colossians 1:20  And through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross.

1 Corinthians 15:28  When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.

1 John 2:2  He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 4:8  Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.

1 John 4:14    And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world.

 Revelation 20:5  The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:14  Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire.

Isaiah 25:6-8    On this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, a feast of well-aged wine, of rich food full of marrow, of aged wine well refined. And he will swallow up on this mountain the covering that is cast over all peoples, the veil that is spread over all nations. He will swallow up death forever; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces, and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for the Lord has spoken.

 Lamentations 3:31-33   For the Lord will not cast off forever, but, though he cause grief, he will have compassion according to the abundance of his steadfast love; for he does not willingly afflict or grieve the children of men.

 Psalm 22:27:All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the LORD;
and all the families of the nations shall worship before him.

Psalm 145: 9-10 The LORD is good to all, and his compassion is over all that he has made.
All thy works shall give thanks to you, O LORD, and all your saints shall bless you!

Matthew 18:14: "It is not the will of my Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish."

Luke.3:6: All flesh shall see the salvation of God.
John 12:32: "When I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself." -

I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God... --Romans 8:38-39

Then as one man's trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one man's act of righteousness leads to acquittal and life for ALL MEN
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man's obedience many will be made righteous.
Rom 5:18-19

For in him (Christ) all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of the cross.
Col 1:19-20

Revelation 5:13, that in the end times, we hear the voices even from the depths of Hades singing praises.  
Is this possible?

Revelation 5:13: "Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, singing: To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb be praise and honor and glory and power, for ever and ever!"

What creature is there under the earth other than the dead - those who are in Hades.  They are singing praises to Jesus.  This is every creature not a few.  Is this true?  Am I reading right? Every creature in Hades under the earth will be saved?

Here are the commentaries on this verse which support that every creature and creation will be redeemed and will sing the praise of the lamb who accomplished it.

The Apostle who pictured all creation as waiting in eager expectation for the full redemption—the redemption of “the body” (Romans 8:23), looked forward to the time when “the whole universe, whether animate or inanimate, would bend the knee in homage and raise its voice in praise” (Philippians 2:10). The doxology which thus rises from the universe is appropriately four-fold: the definite article (omitted in the English version) must be supplied before each word (“The blessing,” &c.). The two preceding songs were in honour of the Lamb; in this last the praise is addressed to the Throned One and to the Lamb. This linking of the Lamb with God as the Throned One is common throughout the book. Here they are linked in praise; in Revelation 6:16 they are linked in wrath; in Revelation 7:17 they are linked in ministering consolation; in Revelation 19:6-7, they are linked in triumph. In the final vision of the book the Lord God and the Lamb are the temple (Revelation 21:22) and the light (Revelation 21:23), the refreshment (Revelation 22:1) and sovereignty (Revelation 22:3), of the celestial city.


Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

5:8-14 It is matter of joy to all the world, to see that God deals with men in grace and mercy through the Redeemer. He governs the world, not merely as a Creator, but as our Saviour. The harps were instruments of praise; the vials were full of odours, or incense, which signify the prayers of the saints: prayer and praise should always go together. Christ has redeemed his people from the bondage of sin, guilt, and Satan. He has not only purchased liberty for them, but the highest honour and preferment; he made them kings and priests; kings, to rule over their own spirits, and to overcome the world, and the evil one; and he makes them priests; giving them access to himself, and liberty to offer up spiritual sacrifices. What words can more fully declare that Christ is, and ought to be worshipped, equally with the Father, by all creatures, to all eternity! Happy those who shall adore and praise in heaven, and who shall for ever bless the Lamb, who delivered and set them apart for himself by his blood. How worthy art thou, O God, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of our highest praises! All creatures should proclaim thy greatness, and adore thy majesty.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible

And every creature which is in heaven - The meaning of this verse is, that all created things seemed to unite in rendering honor to Him who sat on the throne, and to the Lamb. …

Under the earth - Supposed to be inhabited by the shades of the dead. See the Job 10:21-22 notes; Isaiah 14:9 note…….

 Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

13. The universal chorus of creation, including the outermost circles as well as the inner (of saints and angels), winds up the doxology. The full accomplishment of this is to be when Christ takes His great power and reigns visibly.

every creature—"all His works in all places of His dominion" (Ps 103:22).

under the earth—the departed spirits in Hades.

Matthew Poole's Commentary avoids the subject all together

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

and on the earth; men and beasts, and every creeping thing, mountains, hills, fruitful trees, and all cedars: and under the earth: in the bowels of it, metals, minerals, and everything of that kind:

Gill avoids it and interprets it as metals mineral etc singing praises.

Meyer's NT Commentary

every creature (πᾶν κτίσμα) unites in the hymns of praise……he expressly mentions the four great “regions of the creation,”[1969] the whole of which he wishes to represent, just as in Psalm 146:6, Php 2:11, the entire creation is described in its three chief departments…

Expositor's Greek Testament

Revelation 5:13. From the whole creation a third doxology rises, catching up the last word (εὐλογίᾳ) eulogy of the preceding, and addressed—as in the primitive and distinctive confessions of early Christianity (e.g., John 17:3, 1 Timothy 2:5) to God and Jesus alike (Revelation 7:10). In this chorus of praise (Revelation 1:6), by a sweep of the poet’s imagination, even departed spirits and sea-monsters (ἐπὶ τ. θαλ., rather than seafaring men) join……

It definitely asserts the statement:

"Behold I make ALL things new" which includes all creatures that Jesus created.  They are all redeemed.

I don’t know how else could we interpret it.  Should we say the minerals and dust are singing songs?  They are all recreated  joined to the infinite realm and entropy law is reversedbut minerals and matter does not sing or praise.


Martin Luther, in a sermon delivered in Torgau in 1533, stated that Christ descended into Hell.

The Formula of Concord (a Lutheran confession) states, "we believe simply that the entire person, God and human being, descended to Hell after his burial, conquered the devil, destroyed the power of Hell, and took from the devil all his power." (Solid Declaration, Art. IX)

"For Christ died for sins once for all,

 the righteous for the unrighteous,

 (I Peter 3:18 )


Who Is Your God?
A Great Tormentor, A Great Annihilator, or A Great Savior?


While many people are not aware of this fact, nevertheless, it is true that many leading selling Bibles contain passages which prove all three of the above concepts of the Creator of the Universe. All three groups base their teachings of the ultimate fate of the righteous and the wicked upon “What saith the Scriptures?”

Obviously, all three cannot be true. It is these seeming contradictions in “best selling” Bibles that have caused many honest seekers to look elsewhere for the truth. They came to the conclusion that the Bible contradicts itself. Today the largest camp is the Great Tormentor Camp. It may come as a surprise to many people, but the view of the early Church was the Great Savior camp. It wasn’t until the 5th and 6th century A.D. that the Great Tormentor camp began to be prevalent. Below are listed some of the main Scriptures used by each of the camps to prove their position. We will briefly attempt to show why two of these positions are false.

· The eternal damnation and everlasting Hell with suffering that never ends defeats the nature of God as Father and his character of Love

Great Savior
ALL will be SAVED

Great Annihilator
Wicked will be ANNIHILATED

 Great Tormentor

1 Timothy 2:1-7
1 Timothy 4:9-11
Romans 5:18-21
Romans 11:25-36
1 Corinthians 15:20-28
Ephesians 1:7-11
Philippians 2:9-11
Colossians 1:12-23
Hebrews 2:5-10

Hebrews 9:23-26

John 12:32,33

1 John 3:8

Romans 8:20,21

Revelation 5:13

Isaiah 25:6-8

Philippians 3:21

John 12:47

Galatians 3:8

John 3:17

Psalm 138:4

2 Corinthians 5:14-20

1 Corinthians Chapter 13

Psalm 22:27,29

Psalm 65:2-4

John 1:9-13

Psalm 66:3,4

Genesis 18:18

1 Timothy 4:9-1

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
1 Thessalonians 5:3
1 Corinthians 5:5
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12
Jeremiah 51:39,57cf
Jeremiah 18:13-17
Jeremiah 25:8-11
Malachi 4:1-3
Obadiah 1:15,16
Matthew 10:28
Second death
Revelation 20:11-15
Judges 5:31
Psalms 37:20
Psalms 92:9
Luke 19:27
1 Corinthians 15:25,26
2 Peter 3:10-12
Hebrews 6:4-8
Matthew 25:31-46
John 3:36
1 Timothy 6:9

Matthew 25:31-46
Mark 9:38-48
Luke 16:19-31
Matthew 12:24-32
John 3:35,36
Revelation 14:9-12
Revelation 19:19-21
Revelation 20:7-10
2 Thessalonians 1:7-10
Revelation 20:11-15
Revelation 21:8
2 Peter 2:3-22
Jude 6,7
2 Peter 3:10-12
Hebrews 6:4-8
Luke 9:25
John 3:36
Matthew 24:50,51
Luke 12:4,5



The preceding lists contain most of the leading Scriptures used to support these positions. Surely, not all three views are correct. If they are, then there must be passages in these leading Bibles that contradict one another.



 Origen on the Salvation of the Devil

Did Origen believe in the salvation of the devil? He clearly believed that all rational souls were able to be saved (Contra Celsum 4.99) and this would, on Origen's view of the nature of demonic forces, have included the devil and his demons. So the accusation was stirred up that he taught the salvation of demons. But, in a letter to his friends in Alexandria he explicitly denied that he thought the devil and his demons would be saved. So did he or didn't he? Tricky.

Perhaps the following passage explains how he could maintain both positions:

    “For the destruction of the last enemy must be understood in this way, not that its substance which was made by God shall perish, but that the hostile purpose and will which proceeded, not from God but from itself, will come to an end. It will be destroyed, therefore, not in the sense of ceasing to exist, but of being no longer an enemy and no longer death. For to the Almighty nothing is impossible, nor is anything beyond the reach of cure by its maker.”

    Peri Archon 3.6.5

    (trans. Marguerite Harl, Gilles Dorival, and Alain Le Boulluec. Paris, 1976, p.67)

In this case, it might be that Origen denied that Satan would be saved for "Satan" is to Lucifer what "the sinful nature"/"the flesh"/"the old man" is to us. For God to save us "the old must pass away" and there must be new creation (2 Cor 5). So perhaps, for God to redeem fallen angels he must annihilate their demonic aspect. Thus it would be that Satan and his demons would be lost forever — damned — even as God saves Lucifer and his angelic followers.

Gregory of Nyssa was even more bold than Origen on this issue: He maintained that "the originator of evil himself will be healed” (Catechetical Orations 26. The Catechetical Oration of Gregory of Nyssa. Edited by James H. Srawley. Cambridge, 1903, p. 101).






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